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Zell Shadowcast
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.02 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Serj Darek
Originally by: Qlanth
It doesn't take much to figure out who is going to outlast who.
I think the answer to that question may surprise you, but time will tell in game and not on the forums. :)
Fly naked,
Serj
I must be underestimating the desire of your pets to let themselves be removed from all their space and suffer massive losses in personnel and assets to simply give you a moon or two that you get 100% ownership of, leaving them with absolutely nothing and no reason to even stay in the conflict on your side, already sparking hundreds of people fleeing EXE/Skunkworks.
Truly yours,
Zell "Zell Shadowcast" Shadowcast Sr
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Zell Shadowcast
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.03 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Alma Balzitch Edited by: Alma Balzitch on 03/06/2009 16:29:16
Originally by: Moctobot
Originally by: Serj Darek Long Term Outlook: Fights will continue until we get D/Q Country back or the servers are shutdown.
Serj
you get that we have 110 sov3 or higher systems in d/q alone and you have yet to break one right?
in 3 months of trying you have yet to break one
LoL this is funny, I dont recall you guys doing the same untill BoB was shut down by 1 BoB guy.
I know your sov map looks good but id didnt really take much to get it after that 1 BoB guy clicked the button.
I guess when you have 6K ppl all blowing wind into your sails you think your getting somewhere.
Keep up with the forum posting, its another one of the things you guys suck at.
/edit ps. i dun give a hoot who wins or looses
Haargoth presses the button heard around the galaxy, as hitting it apparently creates a shockwave that destroys two titans, baby supercapitals, 500+ large control towers, and dozens of capitals.
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Zell Shadowcast
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.03 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Talon Scorpio
Originally by: Heathkit
Quote: clearly wars are lost or won on the achievements of the solo bought out disgruntaled directer.
Yes! Yes, they are! Now you're getting it!
I got it from the second I saw the BoB alliance chat window go down. What I don't "got" is why you think it was such an achievement for Goonswarm.
I missed you talon scorpio.
Also we killed something like 500-600 towers, baby supercaps, two titans and dozens of capships, if you guys are just now able to totally win the war, why couldnt you when you still were trying to defend your space? all the spy did was drop the jammers, the rest of the failure was completely kenzokus.
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Zell Shadowcast
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.03 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Talon Scorpio Edited by: Talon Scorpio on 03/06/2009 20:13:04
Originally by: Zell Shadowcast} for Goonswarm. [/quote
I missed you talon scorpio.
Also we killed something like 500-600 towers, baby supercaps, two titans and dozens of capships, if you guys are just now able to totally win the war, why couldnt you when you still were trying to defend your space? all the spy did was drop the jammers, the rest of the failure was completely kenzokus.
Moot claim. The hard part was done for you by Haarg. Breaking sov would have been impossible otherwise. Clear out sov 4 instantaneously in any region and all that's left is scavenging the remains. So basically what we have here is one person who pushed a button at the behest of a man with a great deal of character but no morality, and a horde of scavengers who swamed in and gobbled everything up in a land grab. That is an achievement. I understand now. Thank you. .
Will you marry me?
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Zell Shadowcast
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.05 11:15:00 -
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I'm single handedly taking catch based on the kenzoku method. I just dropped a bunch of towers and didn't even online them. I'm going to drop some more, online them, but not stront them.
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Zell Shadowcast
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.05 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: mynnna
Originally by: Serj Darek
Originally by: Sertan Deras Uh huh. They don't care about as much as they don't need the R64 moon they defend with multiple titans, a faction death star and poopsock fleets. They care more than they will tell you, or me, and to assume otherwise is dumb.
If you do not defend a r64 it will be taken, so not sure what your point is to be honest. You guys lost a bunch of r64's, almost i1y and you cried for help like a scared little girl. The parallels you are trying to paint aren't very good, so I guess keep trying? :)
Dang goonies how DARE you bring in ALLIES?
What? No, no, just ignore Skunkworks, ExE, TORMENTUM, Hun Reloaded, AAA, ROL, Systematic Chaos, Beach Boys, SCA, Frontal Impact, Blade, Aeternus, C0ven, and Stain Empire. They don't count!
You left off 5-6 but i honestly couldn't think of the names of any of them. There were something like 23 alliances the day 49- got broke.
Also the whole "We don't need those r64s" argument might have some validity if kenzoku hadn't made every hostile action against our r64s for weeks, or only show up to massively defend their r64s, ignoring everything else of theirs and everything of their allies. |
Zell Shadowcast
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.05 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Havecandy Getinvan Even if you guys take it I think we're still one up with Delve. Q and PB are icing.
If by 'it' you mean 'Detorid' then I agree.
But you and your allies have lost Paragon Soul, Esoteria, Feyth, Omist, Immensea, and Tenerifis too.
Not quite an even trade
Will ushra'khan please stop going on about 'number of regions' like it has any meaning whatsoever.
You can't take a large number of crappy, small regions, and compare them to superregions, and make any kind of reasonable assessment based on 'number of regions'.
Try talking size of belts, r64 counts, plex size, npc lv4 missions - anything but 'number of regions' - its completely meaningless
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Zell Shadowcast
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.05 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Stretchmeat Crotchquake
I don't think you understand what "region quality" is.
Delve is nice region. But the regions you have lost / are losing are worth a lot more overall.
It's still a loss, but its a win V's kenny. So it depends on your priorities, and how you measure success.
if you could post something like this every day that would be awesome
it's one of my favorite rationalizations, i imagine rkz members crying themselves to sleep at night while quietly mouthing "but it's ok, they lost more than delve when they left the south" all the while in their heart they know this is a feeble pathetic lie and trying to convince themselves of it only serves to magnify their pathos
^_^
Why would I rationalise on behalf of kenny? I don't care about them, although I prefer them to goons and I think they've added a lot more to the game.
I'm just stating facts. You gained Delve, you and your allies also lost a ****load of space to an anti-goon coaltion.
You seem to care more about hurting kenny than anything else. Fine. But from a more objective perspective you don't appear to be in a stronger position than before you took Delve.
Butter dog with the inside scoop on goonswarms strength.
Look, maybe its why most of your naptrain lives in catch, but apparently you guys don't know how to tell what space is good and what isn't. Perhaps you should stop posting as to the quality of regions.
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Zell Shadowcast
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.06 01:06:00 -
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Like, completely seriously, Who are ushra'khan anyway.
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Zell Shadowcast
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.06 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Zell Shadowcast on 06/06/2009 14:04:34 At least a complete failure at all of levels of this invasion is the one thing that can't really be spun by anyone in their right mind.
"Yeah, we didn't get all our towers down due to being overpowered, we didn't even online or stront most of them, and we haven't had system dominance since we laid them for two days causing us to lose 30 towers in h74 alone, down to the last one, with our offensive completely routed, our pets fleeing and unanchoring towers, and yet another in a long line of embarrassing defeats that proves we can do nothing without -A- and sometimes nothing with them!
Good job guys. We showed those guys, tick tock be ready to X up for another mandatory call to arms!"
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk goons didn't even have esoteria towards the end, and even when they did they were sharing the highends with TCF and others
TCF replaced any losses with Deklein (HUGE IMPROVEMENT) Goons replaced their losses with Delve/Querious/PB (ALSO HUGE IMPROVEMENT)
maybe RA lost out, but they were already dead a week or two into MAX so not as if it made any difference to coalition
ATLAS/Goons/TCF/-A-/ROL/sys-k/SE/c0ven all came out ahead so stop going on about this subject butter, just accept that you're wrong and move on, feels like we've been having this forum conversation for months :\
If you look at the sov map of the 'south' compared to 6 months ago, you see a whole new powerbloc which didn't exist before Goons did their rush for Delve.
Stainwagon, RED Overlord, ATLAS, Aggression have all gained space and members. They also all dislike the Goons. You're correct that the Goons lost Esoteria before the rush for Delve, but so what? They still lost it.
Ultimately the South has completely transformed into 'goons in delve' and then 'everyone else' (who is anti-goon). I'm not saying Delve isn't a nice region, it is. What I'm saying is that they've allowed a new powerbloc to rise which wants them dead.
The moment the NC have something else to deal with or get bored of holding their hands, the Goons will lose their space. You cannot tell me that is a better position than they were in 6 months ago.
Thanks for proving that an empire guy has no real factual basis when predicting the actions of tens of thousands of pilots. |
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Zell Shadowcast
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.06 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Zell Shadowcast
Thanks for proving that an empire guy has no real factual basis when predicting the actions of tens of thousands of pilots.
Please do tell me which part of my post is factually incorrect
hey who are ushra'khan exactly?
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Zell Shadowcast
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.06 14:44:00 -
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butter dog, you see we are not confined we are focused we are the tiger before it was wounded
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Zell Shadowcast
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.07 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: Sertan Deras The obvious Kenny alts in this thread sperging out about our inevitable doom make the last two days even more hilarious.
You laugh now, but the huge powerbloc of ATLAS and the soon to be revitalized kenzoku will join in the feast as everyone including our allies join in and makes our fortress a coffin.
This time for sure its going to happen guys.
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Zell Shadowcast
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.11 20:44:00 -
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So wait, the GKC formed up a blob to defend a system we haven't attacked in weeks, publicly have stated we were not going to attack, and had no ops anywhere in any allied entity calling for anything on/against/around 49-.
Good job guys you were victorious today.
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